June 24, 2011
"Orthodoxy, in its endurance and faithfulness to its roots, will
always manifest a certain spiritual novelty." An Interview with
Archpriest Artemy Vladimirov
On
Tuesday, April 12, Archpriest Artemy Vladimirov made a short stop in
the Eastern American Diocese on his way home to Moscow after
spending several days in California as a guest of the Western
American Diocese. During his final hours in America, Fr. Artemy met
with diocesan media office correspondent Rdr. Peter Lukianov and
gave a second interview for the official website of the Eastern
American Diocese. The extensive interview features several questions
that were submitted by our readers and covers a wide range of
topics, such as the current state of Orthodoxy in America, spiritual
life, confession, missionary work, and much more. We are pleased to
offer this interview for the enjoyment and spiritual benefit of our
readers.
Representatives of various
Orthodox jurisdictions in America are working to present their own
vision of Orthodoxy. Inter-Orthodox dialogue is dominated by debates
between traditionalists and modernists. Often we lose ourselves
totally to these debates, thereby forgetting the true substance of
our faith, and attempting to remake the Church in our own image, instead
of Christ’s. What say you, as an outside observer, regarding the condition
of Orthodoxy in America? What direction and comfort can you give to
the Orthodox living in America?
It
was with great joy that I learned that, over this past year, the
Kursk Root Icon "of the Sign" has continued its mission in the New
World. And, as His Holiness, Patriarch Kyrill of Moscow and All
Russia, rightly noted, this may be the only icon of the Mother of
God that is now traveling to every country in the world, calling all
Orthodox – Greeks, Russians, Romanians, Georgians – whomever She
encounters along Her travels, to true unity in adoring the Heavenly
Queen, Who intercedes for us before God’s Throne. It was a total
surprise to me to learn the reaction of the Greek Church in America,
whose members gathered in the thousands to greet the Protectress of
the Russian Diaspora, offering her such sincere prayer, such true
veneration, from which perhaps our own "Russian traditionalists"
could stand to learn. And those stunning miracles and signs of
grace-filled power, which we hope will be published not only on the
Greeks’ websites, but on the websites of the Russian Church Abroad,
bear witness to the God-pleasing nature of this undertaken endeavor.
We can all see that the powers of darkness in the world never sleep,
and they continue all the more to squeeze, to tighten their grip,
attempting to darken the minds and hearts of the peoples of the
world. That is why the Mother of God today is traveling along the
roads and fields, the hedgerows and fences, in the words of the
Gospel parable ‒ calling one and all, the white and the black,
everyone who yet retains a modicum of the faith and piety
in this land, so far from Russia. And for us Russians living
in the homeland, it is abundantly clear that the mission of the Icon
of the Sign is Orthodoxy’s penultimate sermon, whose call even those
totally distant from the Orthodox Church will answer. Everything
that has taken place undoubtedly contributes to the elevation of the
Russian Diaspora, the Russian Orthodox Church in America, as the
guardian of Patristic Tradition. The so-called Autocephalous Church
in America is experiencing trying times. It is clear that various
schools are clashing within it; having last year become a witness to
the first, brotherly sit-down between the Church Abroad and the
American Autocephalous Church, I can see that the spiritual
closeness of the clergymen leading these Churches is utterly loathed
by the spirit of darkness, who from the ages has acted according to
the principle of "divide and conquer." And the Evil One always finds
his spokesmen, people who see things in this reconciliation that do
not exist. Perhaps they are troubled solely by the material aspect
of the issue, while others, for some reason, embrace the mentality
of the older brother from the parable of the Prodigal Son – What is
this feast?! What is this happy celebration?! Why, father, have you
gone and wasted, slaughtered the fatted calf, but you never gave me
a goat – why is your younger son shown such honor?! He, I say, who
has devoured your living with harlots, now receives a son’s rights!
– and he was angered, and refused to enter into the radiant and
festal hall. "My son," meekly responded his father, "Is it not right
to rejoice, for this, your brother, was dead, and is alive again. He
was lost, and is found!" It seems to me that the spirit of Orthodoxy
– true, unofficial, informal, non-dogmatic, non-modernistic
Orthodoxy – lies in the very ability to rejoice in every soul that,
having felt the approach of the divine, heeds its call with sincere
prayer, repentance, or even simple interest – for everything begins
by catching one’s attention, moving the mind, and then the heart, to
the divine. I think that Orthodoxy, in its endurance and
faithfulness to its roots, which in turn means its ability to
preserve those grace-filled outward forms, which were neither
created nor established by us today, will always manifest a certain
spiritual novelty – not a novelty comprised of endless reformations
which are not of God, but in the ability to speak to people in their
own language, in the ability to reveal the treasure of Orthodox
Tradition, the treasure of the Scriptures, in an accessible and
understandable way. A sermon is nothing less than the ability to
find a common tongue with those who are intuitively drawn to the
grace-filled depth and height of Orthodoxy, who wish to fall down
before its inexhaustible wellspring.
In recent months, the
Primate of the Orthodox Church in America, His Beatitude,
Metropolitan Jonah, has been in the center of the conflict between
traditionalists and modernists. What are your thoughts on the role
of His Beatitude in shaping the future of Orthodoxy in America?
I
was fortunate enough to have an opportunity to meet with the current
Primate of the American Church – in Russia, when he was still a
young layman. Today I know of his striving toward traditional piety
in his Church, something not everyone in America understands or
accepts, for some feel that Christianity must evolve and adapt to
the American way of life. Others would like to see Christianity
emaciated, withered, reformed, aligned with sinful human nature, and
in a way charged with serving human passions. Understanding all of
this, not only I, but all of us pastors of the Moscow Patriarchate
pray that the humble and tactical actions of the Primate of the
American Church will be properly received – for behind them lies the
desire to breathe a new spirit, a new drive into these easily parched
wineskins: not to pour in new wine, but well-aged wine into the
vessels, so that Americans who come into church, whether familiar or
unfamiliar with Orthodoxy, could taste Orthodoxy, feel its great
inner strength, and be drawn to the Altar of the Lord, not
voluntarily signed up to donate to some fund of one parish or
another, but overtaken by the very beauty of Orthodoxy, by its
spiritual greatness and strength, which vivify human hearts. I wish
Metropolitan Jonah, as well as Metropolitan Hilarion – they
understand one another very well – physical health and the spiritual
strength to carry the cross of their Primacy. And, of course, good
assistants, pastors near to them in spirit, together with whom they
might truly bear witness to the authority of the Orthodox Church ‒
that moral, spiritual authority ‒ to witnesses near and far, so that
even their opponents might be wordlessly enlisted into the holy
labor of spreading faith, hope, and love for Christ and the Church.
Orthodox faithful around the
world are very engaged in the debate concerning the upcoming
Pan-Orthodox Council. There are many, particularly in the Russian
Church Abroad, that are nervous about the impact that such a council
may have on the Universal Orthodox Church. What can you say to those
who fear these gatherings as signaling the death of traditional
Orthodox values, or even the end of the world?
I
am just a young man and I mustn’t have my own judgment, but a
judgment I have nonetheless. Insofar as these fears are concerned,
you and I, who have become familiar with Orthodox Tradition,
remember the sayings of St. Nilus the Myrrh-Bearer, and know not to
be caught unawares. On the other hand, His Holiness, Patriarch
Kyrill – I remember his response to a question about these fears –
spoke of how anyone who fears some heterodox conclusion or decision
of a potential Eighth Ecumenical Council can today see the council’s
schedule, and a list of questions planned for discussion, become
acquainted with them and pose their own questions – we had a general
question from the laity or clergy of the Moscow Patriarchate
regarding all of the work being done by this Pan-Orthodox Council,
and the Patriarch recommended attentively researching the materials
the council had to offer. Everyone can make their own suggestions,
thanks to the current computerized nature of these proceedings, and
mustn’t be as a frightened mouse, running into a nook in a cliff
face and too scared to peek outside, but must have a healthy fear of
God and, caring for the fate of the Church, take active part in
them. Not merely with personal piety, but at least by posing certain
questions, expressing your feelings on one doctrinal or canonical
issue or another affecting the life of the Church. I think that one
can easily understand and even justify the unwillingness of a
hierarch of the Orthodox Church to participate in some suspicious
ecumenical meetings with the so-called World Council of Churches,
especially in our times, when other, supposedly Christian
denominations openly allow a female priesthood or justify
homosexuality – this is an abomination before God. One can easily
understand the conservatism of the Diasporan bishops, who have
refused to take part in similar meetings over the course of decades.
But when we speak of interaction between Orthodox hierarchs,
certainly nothing ought to stand in the way of these bishops
participating in these meetings in the capacity of onlookers and
observers, who can then report back to their flocks and share their
thoughts and observations all the more so when these bishops are
namely canonical, and bind themselves to the legacy of Scripture and
Church Tradition. Today, I think, one also cannot ignore the fact
that darkness in the world is becoming more concentrated –
anti-Christianity in all of its forms and manifestations is growing
more aggressive and shameless by the hour, and declaring its true
intentions. For Orthodox forces, for Orthodox Local Churches and
Orthodox parishes, jointly inhabiting the same geographical
territory, to force themselves apart now – is simply unreasonable.
Inter-Orthodox dialogue can absolutely be a form of witness for any
bishop who claims fidelity to Scripture and Tradition and to
preserving the fullness of Orthodox sanctity in deed as well as
word.
Many, especially in the
Church Abroad, consider that for decades we have preserved our holy
Russian Orthodoxy. And certainly the Church Abroad has been able to
preserve the faith over the last several decades. But some say,
"Here we have done all this preserving, and now there is a chance
that all this will be lost, that some amalgamated American Church
will remove any need for a Russian Church Abroad and we will lose
our reason for being." At the same time, many of the local hierarchs
have made clear that they are in need of the Church Abroad’s voice
in these proceedings, because that traditional, true Orthodox
approach and perspective is lacking and needs support. But our own
worry is that we will be outnumbered and that, ultimately, nothing
will remain of us.
If you’ve preserved it, then you can share it, can you not?
Orthodoxy is not the Russian Orthodoxy of which St. Seraphim of Sarov
spoke as of a retaining wall, but is an entity in and of itself,
something that is not necessarily for everyone, but it would be
good, living this Orthodoxy, to share it. These treasures will not
be taken away from you if you display them, in word, and in deed,
and in thought, will they? It is more blessed to give than to receive, says
the Apostle Paul. Certainly one can understand and approve the
protective work being done by these or other bishops, but it seems
to me that, in the grand scheme of things – I’m answering sincerely,
as those who posed the questions did so sincerely – the problem goes
much deeper. Today more than ever we are in need of great lanterns
of faith such as were our fathers: St. John of Shanghai,
Metropolitan Philaret (Voznesensky) Archbishop Averky (Taushev) –
that whole generation truly carried the fire of God’s Spirit in
their hearts.
Since these great hierarchs
and spiritual leaders are no longer with us on this earth, they
cannot respond to the spiritual challenges that we face today. Many
within ROCOR feel that without the leadership and guidance of those
great hierarchs, we cannot act. Because of this uncertainty, people
are wary of the path that lies before us.
First
of all, the burden is on us, the priesthood and hierarchy. Both
hierarchs and priests must walk the path of accruing and
accumulating God’s grace through personal, penitent, prayerful
spiritual labors and celebrating the Liturgy. The Church will always
look to its archpastors and pastors first and foremost as generals
and officers of an army. We can but answer with penitent sighs when
the laity asks: Where are the inspired and zealous adherents of
God’s faith, whose strength is not in words, but in deeds, and in
the totality of a Christian life? Of course, everyone must know his
limitations and shortcomings, not biting off more than he can chew.
But experience shows that even two or three priests of the Russian
Diaspora, who have undergone a good, thorough education and
schooling in the priesthood and serving, who by their very outward
appearance speak to the traditional values of Orthodoxy – will be a
real force, and caution and suspicion will be a sin. When there are three or even five of us, when we can
center ourselves around a bishop whose piety is beyond reproach –
this will already be a powerful embassy to an apostate world.
Experience shows (judging from the pastoral conferences on the East
and West Coasts in which I participated) what deep internal comfort,
what peace, what true inspiration we take away from interacting with
one another. I saw with my own eyes how this grace-filled atmosphere
affected those Americans, guests from San Francisco and other great
distances, for instance, who came to pose their questions to
Orthodox pastors, to fill their lamps with oil. In my opinion, it is
not for us to bemoan the possibility of losing something. If you
truly possess something, if you are imbued with veneration for the
Mother of God, if you hold in your hands the Kursk Root Icon of the
Mother of God of the Sign, the Protectress of the Russian Diaspora –
are you really scared to take this holy Icon into an Antiochian or
Greek parish and see how the people walk away from it comforted, see
how their tears have been dried, see how God’s grace has settled in
their hearts? We have something to show and share with our
Orthodox brethren, all the more so since the atmosphere has changed
after the unification of the Patriarchate and the Diaspora. Now is
the time for consolidation, time to rally the Orthodox forces in
America, for we have far greater opponents than each other.
The first question from our
readers comes from South Carolina: Fr. Artemy, we are surrounded by
many pious Protestants in the South. These are good, kind-hearted
people, who have a sincere love for Christ and are very active
Protestant missionaries. As Orthodox Christians, what is the best
way to attract Protestants, many of whom already have a good
understanding of the Bible, to the True Faith?
This question is not a simple one, but it is a very important and
necessary one, because on the one hand we are called to live within
the confines of the canons of the Mother Church. Here we cannot
attend some sophomoric joint prayer, which leaves a great weight in
the soul of an Orthodox Christian, for can that prayer truly be
pleasing to God, which does not begin or end with an appeal to the
name of the Mother of God, and the veneration of Her as the
unassailable wall of our faith? It is another thing entirely for an
Orthodox Christian, seeing an unfeigned interest, an openness, a
desire for some human contact, to serve these well-meaning people,
opening for them the treasury of Holy Tradition. I, for one, would
recommend, if possible, taking St. John Chrysostom’s treatise on the
Book of Genesis or the Gospel according to St. Matthew, and try to
set up a group that meets in the evenings or in the daytime, so that
these Carolinians, who know so well the Scriptures and cite it in
their own manner, might brush up against the truly Divine depth of
patristic wisdom and interpretation. If we come across this interest
– after all, a sincere soul cannot help but fall in love with
patristic thought – I would recommend they read the Paschal sermon
of St. John Chrysostom, or excerpts from his sermons on the
priesthood. St. John Chrysostom’s writing style is very simplistic, but
perhaps you can even progress to passages from St. Basil the Great
or St. Gregory the Theologian, for a majority of Protestants – it’s
no secret – come to Orthodoxy through the Greek Church, through the
Byzantine tradition, and the moment that interest is born in them,
they see the difference between the smooth-talking and self-assured
preachers of modern Protestantism, and the eternal pearls of the
Spirit. I think here it would be beneficial to read aloud the
writings of St. John of Kronstadt – his journal has been translated
into English – and pierce the mysterious depths of the human soul.
Or, perhaps, even the letters of the Optina Elders to laymen and
monastics. This, I feel, would be a wonderful start. The rest will
be added unto you: experience shows that, as soon as a person takes
interest in the world of the Orthodox Icon (and we know what absurd
impressions they have about icons), if you show them slides of the
mosaics of Hagia Sophia in Constantinople, or the mosaics of
Ravenna, if they wish not only to preach, but to listen, as well,
their hearts and minds will be incrementally drawn to Church
Tradition. After all, what do they know of St. John the Baptist,
other than the limited witness of the Gospels? But one can prepare
for their edification selections from the
vitae: from the lives of
St. George the Trophy-Bearer, St. Panteleimon the Healer – let them
stir their hearts with that marvelous power of ancient martyrdom.
Some might have an interest in Russia, and in this sense the
vitae of the Holy New
Martyrs might be beneficial. Above all I would recommend the
discussion with St. Seraphim of Sarov on the acquisition of the Holy
Spirit – what could possibly be said in opposition to this bastion
of faith, which the Protestants have traded for pseudo-charismatic
experiences lacking any inner authenticity?
The following question is
from the same parish: Father, we worry, because our church is very
small; a majority of our parishioners are very active and
participate in the everyday life of the parish family. But because
of the small size of the parish, often it falls to the same people
to clean the church, prepare meals, participate in church functions
and be members of the parish council – and, of course, they have to
attend services. After all this, how do you keep from having them
become overburdened and disappointed, ending with them leaving the
church? What would you say to those people in order to lift their
spirits, so that they do not burn out and lose heart?
I
think that here we have great need for the well-known tact and
delicate touch of the priest and matushka, as the nucleus of the
parish. The words of certain Russian idioms come to mind:
No one prays to God against
his will ("невольникъ
‒ не
богомольникъ").
These parish labors must be for the volunteers
not a burden, but a joy
("не
въ
тягость,
а
въ
сладость").
Or, as they say in Russia,
Grace cannot be forced upon you ("Благодать
не
насилуетъ").
Therefore, having drawn these people into the orbit of parish
care, I think we must follow the Savior’s example: not immediately
enlisting them and plugging them into the plan. If you like, if you
have the inclination, if you want this, then we would be happy for
it. And thereby you avoid rushing to grab new parish members by the
scruff of the neck. I, for instance, recall one of my several
mistakes that I try never to repeat: a young man came to me, fairly
well off, and the church at the time was going through hard times
(we have a large property, with more than 200 people working on and
around it). And I, hearing his first semi-confession, he was pouring
out his life’s story (though still lacking penitence), I offhandedly
remarked to him, "How nice it would be if once a month you would
contribute some small, comfortable sum to our work." "Of course," he
replied. "My pleasure!" He came once, came a second time, and then
never came back, because he still did not have that inner drive to
gladly share that which God
had given him. I took this mistake to heart, and try never to burden
anyone – I can hint at something, but everyone knows for themselves
whether they are capable or incapable of action at one time or
another; that is the first thing. Second, of course, it is not a bad
idea to tell newly converted parishioners that their presence in
church, the hours they spend then, are not merely a shared burden;
let us recall the words of St. Seraphim, who spoke of how ancient
Christians used to consider it an honor to take the very dust from
the church, moistening it at home, anointing themselves with it, and
being healed by it according to their faith. In Russia, we have a
tradition when restoring churches, whereby everyone receives a
symbolic brick with his name inscribed on it, so that truly, he who
brings even one brick with his own hands to the newly constructed
church will not be deprived of his reward. It would be good to try
always to inspire people, letting them know that an hour or two
spent in the shelter of the church might even bestow grace upon your
children, delivering them from the slavery of computer games, thanks solely to your participation, or because you washed a few pots after a
church luncheon. Patriarch Alexey II spoke about how churches in
Russia today must fulfill the functions of "pioneer houses" (in
Soviet times, these were state-run "scout" clubs, entertainment
clubs, places for "artistic vacation," and there were many various
types) ‒ all of this was sponsored by the Soviet government. Now,
unfortunately, commercialism is everywhere and children’s interests
take second place. And so Orthodox parishes in Russia must take the
place of the "pioneer houses," so that here children might be able
to take lessons in Russian Fist-Fighting, or play ping-pong, or take
ballroom dancing lessons, and all of this will be beneficial,
precisely because it will take place under the aegis, under the
protection, of the church, where the surroundings are brighter and
make human interaction free and easy. It would probably be best to
tell these newly involved people that to be the focus of the
church’s attention is a great mercy and grace, which carries with it
great moral blessings for adults and children alike. And the fruits
of their labors will themselves convince them of this. God does not
remain indebted ‒ in exchange for preparing a fund-raising luncheon
on a great feast day, the Lord will allow you to trade in your old,
beat-up Chevrolet for a new Mercedes, with automatic transmission
and all the accessories, of course!
Many of the parishes in our
diocese, especially those in the South, face a large cultural divide
when trying to attract non-English-speaking Russians to ROCOR
parishes. The only difference between our English and Russian
parishes is the language of the services. The order and spirit of
the services, customs, and calendar are all the same, yet native
Russians seem reluctant to become regular parishioners in our
English mission parishes. What advice could you give to our pastors
to help them attract more Russians?
I
think that here we speak not so much of Russians and Americans, as
of that inertness of human souls that is so familiar to people who
have yet to truly, acutely feel the light and warmth of the
Mother Church. Every priest, in Russia as well as in America, runs
into this problem. That is why, invoking the angelic hosts during
the Divine Liturgy, we call priests "ones who sing, shout, cry
aloud, and say:" thus must a priest be, if God gives him the time
and strength, not limited to divine services alone, but occupying
the very center of pastoral life; he must cast the fishing line of
the Gospel, cast the net of God’s Word, in order to catch those
fish, large and small, who swim far from the ship’s wake of the
Church. This means that it is essential to demonstrate some
ingenuity, some cleverness, and find every possible opportunity to
gather people for an evening and do something that interests them.
This doesn’t necessarily have to take place in the church, but maybe
in the parish hall; here a priest cannot do without the help of
active, creative parishioners in order to set up the event: Russian
poetry, history, perhaps something about Russian-American ties, the
assimilation of the first Russian emigrants into the northern or
southern United States – in other words, not necessarily
church-oriented themes. For instance, when I was at Fort Ross, I
observed their brochures and museum exhibitions – there are many
interesting intersections right there – in fact, the very trading
company that founded Fort Ross was the Russian-American Company. I
think that a priest who considers it important to focus on and
center his activities around potential parishioners – and, after
all, we are not poaching their pockets, but desire to bring benefit
to their souls – can certainly go even further – let it be
organizing a youth club that will encourage dialogue with the youth
– every single thing that can possibly fit into the realm of
Christian morality. In Russia, some deaneries of the Moscow suburbs
even organize soccer or other sports tournaments, and in that
manner priests are able to at least make contact with the hearts and
minds of these teenagers, reading a prayer before their match, or
softly talking with them during lunch. That is to say, one cannot
lock oneself up in church and let the grass grow under one’s feet. A
pastor will receive according to the measure of his approachability
– every priest has his hobbyhorse, some secular specialty – let
everything proceed from that. And let us not omit the fact that on
the Internet today people get together, grow apart, argue in the
forums, and pose various questions that might be interesting for
certain age groups. We wish the Russian-American clergy in this
regard proactivity, resourcefulness, and God’s help – as they say,
don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched – you never know
until you try – God helps those who help themselves – and our
pastoral work is to cast our fishing lines with the words, "Be
caught, O fish, large and small." And then what God gives, He gives.
Do you feel that it is
important for clergy to engage the faithful on social networks such
as Facebook and Twitter, or is it better to engage them only in a
church setting?
I will say of myself that I am a somewhat old-fashioned individual,
and I simply would not have enough time for the Internet – this
requires a certain number of hours for communicating, and as in
olden days I prefer personal communication, heart to heart, face to
face, but I absolutely understand those priests who can master
modern technology and descend into that virtual world – there too
are real voices, real souls and interests, and it goes without
saying that is it desirable for it to have its own safe havens, its
own bright corners, as well, where people can ask questions about
God, learn something about Orthodoxy, or at least enter into this
kind of correspondence with an Orthodox pastor – I think the Lord
would bless this sort of undertaking.
Many of our clergymen are
forced to work full time jobs and cannot dedicate all of their time
to serving the needs of the parish. Social networks are especially
helpful for these clerics, because they give them an opportunity to
interact with young people when it is most convenient for them.
Of course. All the more so, because out of thousands, a handful will
be found for whom dialogue with a priest will be a true revelation –
whether that person is, perhaps, Latino or African-American,
something may come of it. We pastors know from experience that
correspondence easily transitions from virtual to real and personal.
In an effort to relate to
young people, some clerics may become too involved in social
networks. Is this temptation a real danger, or just a sign of the
times in which we live?
Here a Russian proverb may suffice –
What you enjoy will become
what tempts you – anything in excess is from the Evil One. I
don’t want to be the morality police, giving advice to the sage
among us, and I think that a priest knows his limits, as with how
much whisky to drink, so with how much time to spend in the virtual
underground.
The next question comes from
to you from Maryland – Fr. Artemy, how can I inspire the young
people to love the Lord more than the things of this world?
I
think that the most correct answer here would be for all of us
Orthodox priests to strive to enhance our own personal spirit of
prayer. Why does one priest suffer from pastoral loneliness, while
another isn’t sure when he will find the time to eat? I think much
depends on the condition of one’s pastoral spirit. I was just in San
Francisco, and was touched by the spirit of St. John (Maximovitch);
of course, in his day there were many Russians, although today there
is no shortage, either. But at that time Russian émigrés had to toil
in poverty and scarcity just to gather a few pennies to build the
church – they were not yet built. But it goes without saying that
St. John’s spirit of prayer was the magnet that irresistibly
attracted human souls to him, not all of which were Orthodox. As one
of the future bishops of the Russian Church Abroad said of his
spiritual father, whom he met in Paris: "He was a true monk, an
ascetic – when I first saw his face, I saw an otherworldly light
radiating from his eyes, and I understood that God is remarkably
close to mankind, and the spiritual beauty of this pastor forever
drew my soul to Christ." I think this to be an appropriate answer to
this question; but, of course, people need to be worked with. The
chief misfortune of pastors is that we lack the time for sufficient
conversation. The more labor and love you exert with your child, the
more grateful he will be, the more the sprouts we sow in his heart
will take root. Of course, man is free, and is capable to exerting
every power over himself. Love cannot be forced, but experience
shows that a garden that goes a long time without weeding will be
overgrown, while in the opposite case, daily care for one’s garden
will bring forth fruits all the more abundantly. Therefore, if a
priest finds even a small number of young people within his sphere
of influence, his pastoral labors will speak for themselves if he
devotes his personal attention to those young people, adapting
himself to care for their weaknesses and their psychology with
fatherly love, a smile, kindheartedness, and a live interest in
conversation with them; by talking with them he will prove to be the
very same able gardener, by whose hands, sooner or later, wonderful
roses will bloom.
A question from a parochial
school teacher: Last weekend I received two typical questions, which
I tried my best to answer, and I wanted your opinion. The questions
are the following: Why is sex outside of marriage sinful? and Why
are drugs forbidden, other than the fact that they are illegal?
This question is all the more real for me, because just today I
received a telephone call from one Russian mother whose daughter is
currently studying management at a university in Los Angeles. Her
daughter, meanwhile, has expressed to her mother her horror at
having to stand up to her professor and the other students in her
critical thinking class alone, along with only two Pakistani
Muslim girls, when the class is being expressly told that having
your first abortion is very good, that smoking marijuana is not
wrong, but very good, and that gay and lesbian orientations are totally
normal – it is all very good. And although the class is supposedly
on critical thinking – understand that as you will, but some
thinking for yourself must take place. Nonetheless, the matter ended
with the professor telling her Russian Orthodox Christian student
that, if she continues to maintain that homosexuality is wrong, then
she will not receive a good grade in the class. This isn’t even
pressure, but flat-out blackmail. Of course, it isn’t easy for
modern teenagers in America – and in Russia soon, too, it seems – to
stand up to such powerful pressure and fight for the right to a
human, that is, correct and Biblical, point of view. We, Orthodox
teachers, are therefore required all the more to have the answers,
and our answers must be wise and precise. We cannot simply dogmatize
– this is bad, this is bad, this is bad – but must find a rational
method of explanation: why is sex before marriage bad? Judge it by
its fruits – everything must be judged by its fruits. One tests
theory in practice, and vice versa. The majority of relationships
fall apart like the proverbial house of cards where "he and she" are
not bound one to another by any obligations, but are engaged in
simple self-satisfaction, calling all of these sexual experiments
"love." God invested us with reproductive abilities and the mutual
attraction of the sexes so that we would create families and bear
children. But children’s health is dependent directly on parents’
behavior. Experienced doctors and physiologists note that God made
man monogamous, a belief completely in line with the Bible’s
teachings: one or two pairings for life (a second in case of
necessity; for instance, the death of a spouse). Where love between
a husband and wife is supplanted by debauchery, we immediately see
the results: many forms of illness, which are not healed by any
medicines, which drain the health of the future mother, and which
lead to congenital or postnatal diseases in the newborn. If we look
at the question from an intellectual standpoint, what accompanies
youthful debauchery? Any doctor with the slightest experience will
tell you that a young man or woman will become lazy and unable to
work; they not only lose their curiosity and desire to learn, but
their very perception of the world becomes stunted and dulled. What
separates children from adults? Liveliness, forthrightness, joyful
openness to the wonders of God’s world, and inability to stay
despondent or upset. Children are perfect creatures, thanks to their
purity, innocence, virginity, and chastity. Take a child away from
his parents, let him stray, and he becomes like a little old man,
struck by listlessness, despondency, various maladies, unhappiness
with life, weakening of his vitality, up to and including suicidal
tendencies and a desire to leave this life – but you can’t hide from
yourself, as they say. If we look at the question from an ethical
point of view, a person who corrupts himself, dragging the lily of
his chastity in the dirt and establishing himself on that path,
becomes a cold cynic, a pragmatist, incapable of faith – not so much
in the Lord God as in anything greater, more ideal, or holy – a
person who falls victim to questionable influences, as a rule,
begins to descend down the ladder into the depths. It is no
coincidence that debauchery always goes hand-in-hand with other
sins: where there are drugs, there is debauchery; where there is
debauchery, there is despondency and despair; there is no sense of
how to apply oneself, and in Russia this often translates to
criminal behavior. And there are many other ways to burn through,
ruin, and tear asunder your life which I won’t mention here.
An
amusing question from a matushka: Our church is small, but has a lot
of children. Is it all right or not to spank the children for bad
behavior in Church? Some say that, when the children grow up, they
will remember how they were abused in church, while others still say
that parents should give their children a choice whether or not to
attend church.
I hope that my answer will not reach the ears of child services in
whatever state Matushka lives, but I have a certain theory, that the
head of a child is full of nerve endings directly connected to his
bottom. If they are unable to comprehend something with their minds,
then through certain tactile impacts on the bottom in the form of a
light spank from a loving heart, the signal will reach the brain
directly, and the child will in that instant reject his mischief,
once more assuming the visage of an obedient lambkin.
Question from Michigan about
confession: Not having developed or improved since his last
confession, one is ashamed and hesitates to confess every week,
hoping to allow more time for self-improvement. Is this delay in
confessing one’s sins correct or not?
None
of us is shy about the need to regularly wash our underwear and
rinse
our sleepy eyes and brush our teeth every day when we rise from
sleep. This, despite the fact that you comprehend full well that tomorrow
morning you will need to do it again. But if you don’t do it, you
will become a pig! Your mouth will start to smell, and not only that
– you’ll become the protagonist of Saltykov-Shchedrin’s "Wild
Landlord." He tells the tale of a gentleman who becomes a sheer
monstrosity. Is the soul not so much more delicate than the body?
And if the body requires soaping and washing and cleaning, then the
soul, which is so very impressionable, which so quickly adopts the
trappings of sin as it lives in this world, must be refreshed and
cleaned. I will say of myself, for instance, that I fully understand
St. Ambrose, Bishop of Milan, who said of himself: "Every day I must
commune of Christ’s Holy Mysteries, for every day I sin
involuntarily." Of course, not everyone should commune every day or
even every other day, but not only is there is no shame in frequent
confession, but there can’t be any. Perhaps someone will say that he
sees no improvement in himself. But I will rejoice in you if you, having
confessed last week, come to me, a priest, this week, having
committed no greater sin – you’re standing in place, but that is
already an improvement over your fellows, who are descending lower
and lower into the circles of hell, never able to cross the
threshold of the church. By the way, it is not man’s lot to see and
evaluate his own spiritual growth. It is no coincidence that Holy
Scripture says: "The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord"
(Psalm 36:23). It will be a good start if, from confession to
confession, coming to an understanding of your own faults, you
humbly develop a conviction about yourself – for God gives grace
unto the humble, but He rejects the self-assured and the proud, who
think that they do not need to reveal the sores in their souls. You
say you will come in six months – hear my prophecy, dear friend: you
won’t come in six years. By that mentality, "Let me clean off my
wings, comb my fur, and I will appear in six months before the
priest all bright and clean and nice," the evil one poaches many in
their false modesty, in their pride, and holds them away from the
church for sixty years. I wouldn’t want to hear your last confession
when you’re in the tomb. Why don’t you come next weekend, God
willing?
Having sinned, I lose the
will to pray, and my prayer ceases to be alive. What do you think:
should I wait some time, confess and commune, and try again to come
to prayer in the hope that life with return to it, or, pushing
everything aside, should I get up in the morning and, fighting my
own inclinations, try again and again to defeat this formalism in my
prayer?
I am inclined to support the second point of view, for God said, "I
will give prayer to those who pray." And a righteous man, it is
said, falls seven times in a day. Each of us sees our own spiritual
cardiogram, the rise and fall, the cooling and renewed gathering of
warmth in our hearts. But waiting for the sun to shine is a fool’s
errand. The Lord Himself invites all into His vineyard at the first,
third, sixth, ninth hours – spiritual life experience shows that no
one who goes into battle will be left without support from above. We
begin with laziness and reluctance, but depart from our evening
prayer rule a little comforted. And may God grant each of us to end
the day not defeated, but a victor, or at the very least penitent in
defeat. Tomorrow will take care of itself, although no one has
promised us a tomorrow. So I think that one ought to expend every
effort to exude a prayerful breath, and even if we aren’t given it,
God, in the words of St. Isaac the Syrian, will honor our bravery
and patience if, having fallen, we immediately rise in the hope that
God’s right hand will support us.
Why is it that in Japan,
which can rightly be called a pagan nation (Orthodox and even
Christians in general there are a tiny minority), the total
devastation that was seen in the most recent earthquake did not lead
to any inhuman excess? People are behaving themselves uprightly,
helping others in need, there is no looting, no price-gouging in
either foodstuffs or transportation costs. Support can be felt both
from the government and among neighbors. The Japanese people
are overcoming this disaster, one might say, by living according to
God’s commandments. Why then has not the thousand-year history of
Orthodoxy in Russia and the last twenty years of the Church’s
revival there not held back our own people from violent behavior,
from looting and other crimes, from profiting off the suffering of
others during calamities, as happens in our country? Or does
apostasy beget a much harsher punishment than simply not knowing
God?
I
agree that this question has much truth in it: the higher the rise,
the greater the fall. We Orthodox, or at the very least baptized,
people must learn how to glean the best aspects of each tribe and
people – not for nothing is it said that every people which does
good works is pleasing unto God. And here the Japanese have given us
a good lesson in loving mankind, national solidarity, proving the
Russian proverb:
The deeper the grief, the closer is God
("Чѣмъ
глубже
скорбь,
тѣмъ
ближе
Богъ").
And tragedies really do bring people together. I
witnessed something similar in Russia during our last apocalyptic
summer, when the mysteriously ignited forests and the surprising
behavior of the fires, which acted like a rabid, wild animals,
united the Russian people. Our Church Department for Charity earned
high marks, in the words of His Holiness the Patriarch, taking over
the functions of the government’s own infrastructure by virtue of
the number of tons of foodstuffs collected in Moscow and distributed
to the countryside, where the fire was especially ferocious. Of
course, hearing about the earthquake in Japan, one cannot forget the
words of the Savior: "Suppose ye that these…were sinners above
[you], because they suffered such things?...Or those…upon whom the
tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners
above all [you]?...But, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise
perish." There is no doubt that this is a general warning to all
mankind, to those in Asia, in Europe, in Australia, in America, as
every nation must respond to crises likewise, for if we will extend
a helping hand to our neighbors, the Lord will grant mercy and
deliverance to those who truly help.
Another question from
Michigan:
Hasn’t the time come for Russian people both in Russia and around
the world to resolutely demand that the current government cleanse
the stench of the villains’ corpses locked away in the heart of
Moscow – aren’t signatures being gathered to petition the government
to make this decision?
Signatures are being gathered indeed, and this question arises from
time to time. Recently one Duma deputy rose from his seat to voice
the above opinion. I recently met one woman at a conference of the
Orthodox Women of Russia who is leading a movement to raise funds
for a monument to St. Hermogenes, Patriarch of Moscow. It turns out
that, not long before the Revolution, an organization was founded
and funds were collected to erect a monument to St. Hermogenes, who
along with the militias liberated Moscow from the Polish, European
yoke, on that very spot where Shchusev built his wooden mausoleum.
And so right now there is an initiative on the part of these Russian
women to gathered the necessary funds and cast a monument of the
Hieromartyr Hermogenes, having first wiped clean the ground,
excising that Babylonian Ziggurat and removing Ulyanov’s plastic
remains, although probably not to Simbirsk – whatever did they do? –
perhaps giving it over for preservation in the Spy Museum in
Washington! There, I think, some pigeonhole can be found to house
the remains of the leader of the world revolution. We desire and
want this very much, and as far as petitions to the government are
concerned, I think they already know. The issue lies in how truly
they have divorced themselves from the legacy of Ulyanov. For
instance, I am often vexed by the speeches of Mr. Zyuganov when he
speaks out alongside the opposition to the current "United Russia"
party and sees no shame in tying pioneer scarves on children in Red
Square, bowing his head before that Lesser Beast, one of Russia’s
bloodiest tyrants. At the same time, he often speak of the closeness
of his party’s interests and those of the Orthodox Church – a
discrepancy and contradiction in and of itself ‒ what nonsense, what
an inappropriate political game. One wants to believe that you and I
will live to see the day when the mausoleum is moved, perhaps even
to the moon, with the help of the U.S. Senate. It is no coincidence
that the monument to Minin and Pozharsky, moved in front of St.
Basil’s Cathedral, speaks to a silent dialogue between these two
heroes of Russian history: the prince sits, looking at Minin, while
Minin stands with his hand raised in the direction of the mausoleum,
posing the question to the sovereign prince: "Tell me, O prince,
what is this filth erected at the foot of thy keep?"
Our readers were overjoyed
at your first interview – we received many positive responses from
across America. We would like to give you the last word, if you
would like to express any well wishes to our readers.
Having
this year visited San Francisco and its environs, I once more
experienced the great joy that comes from interaction with the
pastors of the Russian Diaspora, and not only with them, and I come
away with an even deeper conviction in the necessity of continued
close interaction between the clergy, laity, and hierarchs of the
Patriarchate and the Russian Church Abroad. It was touching to me
that, on this trip, I did not write a personal request on my own
behalf to His Holiness the Patriarch, but instead he answered an invitation
by Archbishop Kyrill of San Francisco with a long letter, in which
he expressed hope that the interaction of the clergy of Moscow and
San Francisco (and other American cities) would all the more enhance
our already completed unification, that unification that has as its
foundation the undertakings of Patriarch Alexey and Metropolitan
Laurus. I think that we all need one another, and all of us – clergy
and laity, ought to remember the Russian proverb:
Let us rejoice in what we
have ("Чѣмъ
богаты,
тѣмъ
и
рады").
For the Lord hasn’t given any one of us all of His gifts, but each
of us, having our God-given talents, also possesses weaknesses
intrinsic to human nature. When we stick to ourselves, isolate
ourselves, we become by our very nature hostages of our sinful
weaknesses. On the other hand, we cannot fully open those gifts and
talents that God has given us – not for our own sake, but for the
sake of our neighbors. I am convinced that, when we enter into
spiritual, soulful unity with one another, when we labor and pray
together, then our talents are revealed in their full potential for
the benefit of one another, but also our weaknesses begin to
decrease and abate and, God willing, will totally disappear, not for
our own sakes, but unto the glorification of our Lord God Who, when
we are taken individually, calls us members, but taken as a whole
calls us His Body. I bid farewell this time to the Orthodox
Christians of America, and specifically to the faithful of the
Eastern American Diocese of the Russian Diaspora. I express my hope
that we will all be able, on our respective sides of the oceans, to
greet the radiant feast of Christ’s Pascha with joy and merriment. I
pray together with you that the forces of darkness, which never
sleep and which would like nothing more than to divide us one by
one, upon hearing in every language on earth ‒
Christ is risen,
Χριστóς
̉ανέστη,
Le Christ est ressuscité,
Христосъ
воскресе
‒ will tremble and flee into the abyss on an unpaid
leave, giving us here a chance to once more expand our activities.
And if they remain to play their tricks on us, let it not be for us
unto sorrow, but unto joy, for if we never met any obstacles to
doing good deeds, then we would either fall asleep in false
self-deceit, or would just stop doing those good deeds, because
there is nothing interesting about everything working out like
clockwork. I very dearly hope that our temporary parting will end
with our seeing one another again soon. Today I recall the words of
a good White Army song: "Arise, O count, great deeds await you!
Daybreak is at hand." Therefore, as the sun sets on this day, as I
rise up to the heights beyond the clouds, I will risk my life to
stick my head out the airplane window and wave goodbye to Manhattan,
which has turned out to be much less frightful than they made it
seem in Russia, for here Orthodox people live and work unto the
glory of our Lord and God. Amen!
Interview conducted by Rdr. Peter Lukianov
Translated from the
original Russian by Rdr. Gregory Levitsky
Media
Office of the Eastern American Diocese